>> obama. >> does that make a difference to you? >> yes. one part of it. >> here you are with these marvelous observations and we have sam rayburn floating in here. tell me where your at and what is the -- you are at and what is the point at which you come out on all this. >> at the debate i would like to see how well they talk on their feet. without stumbling over a number of things. let's not have someone say, i knew jack kennedy and your not him. let's have them be prepared with some rudimentary concrete plans. and give us an inkling of where they would like the country to go and how they think they might be able to do it. >> and who did you vote for four years ago? >> four years ago -- john kane. why aren't you lock step for man wrongly this time around? >> i i am more interested because i think we are in such a quagmire. i am more interested in growing hearing what both sides have to say, especially if we can get down to the nitty gritty part of it? >> i would like to see him reform the de